Call for monitoring of AG Dra by R. Galis & al.
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Re: Call for monitoring of AG Dra by R. Galis & al.
Here is my low resolution spectra of AG Dra, taken last night on 26Apr17:
James
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James Foster
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LISA IR/Visual Spectroscope (IR Configured)
Alpy 200/600 with Guide/Calibration modules and Photometric slit
Star Analyzer 200
eShel2-Zwo ASI6200MM Pro
Lhires III (2400/1800/600 ln/mm Grat) Spectroscope
LISA IR/Visual Spectroscope (IR Configured)
Alpy 200/600 with Guide/Calibration modules and Photometric slit
Star Analyzer 200
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Re: Call for monitoring of AG Dra by R. Galis & al.
Hi James,
Great spectrum with a good SNR in the blue part of the spectrum !!!
Great spectrum with a good SNR in the blue part of the spectrum !!!
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Re: Call for monitoring of AG Dra by R. Galis & al.
To: Oliver,
Thanks! I was able to get more of the "blue-end" data after I tuned the LISA collimator to get the
Ar lines sharp. Of course, there is still some "bifurcation" of the continuum at wavelengths below 4000A
especially with my F/6.8 reflector.
James
Thanks! I was able to get more of the "blue-end" data after I tuned the LISA collimator to get the
Ar lines sharp. Of course, there is still some "bifurcation" of the continuum at wavelengths below 4000A
especially with my F/6.8 reflector.
James
James Foster
eShel2-Zwo ASI6200MM Pro
Lhires III (2400/1800/600 ln/mm Grat) Spectroscope
LISA IR/Visual Spectroscope (IR Configured)
Alpy 200/600 with Guide/Calibration modules and Photometric slit
Star Analyzer 200
eShel2-Zwo ASI6200MM Pro
Lhires III (2400/1800/600 ln/mm Grat) Spectroscope
LISA IR/Visual Spectroscope (IR Configured)
Alpy 200/600 with Guide/Calibration modules and Photometric slit
Star Analyzer 200
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Message from the team:
First of all, thank you very much for effort of you and all ARAS members. We are monitoring the ARAS database for new AG Dra observations daily and we are really delighted by the enthusiasm and passion of the ARAS observers. Thanks this huge effort, for the first time in the history of spectroscopic observations of AG Dra, this symbiotic binary is monitored with around one-day resolution. The observational data of such amount (43 spectra from the beginning of the campaign to this day) and quality will give us an unique opportunity to study the spectroscopic behaviour of this interesting interacting binary in the details, which have not parallel in an investigation of symbiotic stars.
Up to now, we are very satisfied with quality of the obtained spectra, especially with Echelle ones. Probably, not all low-resolution spectra will be suitable for our detailed analysis of the spectral behaviour of AG Dra. On the other hand, we would like to encourage even observers with low-resolution spectrographs. Their observations would play crucial role for determination of the beginning of a potential outburst of AG Dra since we have certain hints that some spectroscopic behaviour of the outburst activity of AG Dra would foreshadow the photometric one.
As we mentioned in previous, according to our detailed statistical analysis of photometric observations, we know that the the time interval between outbursts of AG Dra vary from 300–400 days, with median around 360 days. If we assume, that the last outburst occurred around JD 2 457 517, we can expect the next outburst in the interval from JD 2 457 877 (today!) to JD 2 457 917 (June 12, 2017). Of course, please take this prediction without warranty, since it is based on typical photometric behaviour of this search-less system. There is also some probability that AG Dra will return to quiescence stage as we have already detected such behaviour during the weak activity stage 1963–66.
On the other hand, we have some hints that the symbiotic system AG Dra is still active. Even though the photometric behaviour of AG Dra indicates the typical quiescence low-amplitude variability, some spectroscopic characteristics clearly demonstrate that the system is awakened state. Indeed, the equivalent widths of strong emission lines are almost stable in this period. In contrast, their profiles are typical for the active stages of AG Dra, when the blue-wing absorption component observed only during the quiescence stages is almost completely smoothed away.
So, what can we expect from AG Dra? We will see in next days. In the case of this interesting object everything is possible and as I know this object (already some 20 years) it will be certainly the less expected possibility
Once again thank you very much for your effort and we are look forward to new exciting spectra of AG Dra!
On behalf of the scientific team,
Rudolf Gális
So, just go on, with the same cadency and quality.
François
First of all, thank you very much for effort of you and all ARAS members. We are monitoring the ARAS database for new AG Dra observations daily and we are really delighted by the enthusiasm and passion of the ARAS observers. Thanks this huge effort, for the first time in the history of spectroscopic observations of AG Dra, this symbiotic binary is monitored with around one-day resolution. The observational data of such amount (43 spectra from the beginning of the campaign to this day) and quality will give us an unique opportunity to study the spectroscopic behaviour of this interesting interacting binary in the details, which have not parallel in an investigation of symbiotic stars.
Up to now, we are very satisfied with quality of the obtained spectra, especially with Echelle ones. Probably, not all low-resolution spectra will be suitable for our detailed analysis of the spectral behaviour of AG Dra. On the other hand, we would like to encourage even observers with low-resolution spectrographs. Their observations would play crucial role for determination of the beginning of a potential outburst of AG Dra since we have certain hints that some spectroscopic behaviour of the outburst activity of AG Dra would foreshadow the photometric one.
As we mentioned in previous, according to our detailed statistical analysis of photometric observations, we know that the the time interval between outbursts of AG Dra vary from 300–400 days, with median around 360 days. If we assume, that the last outburst occurred around JD 2 457 517, we can expect the next outburst in the interval from JD 2 457 877 (today!) to JD 2 457 917 (June 12, 2017). Of course, please take this prediction without warranty, since it is based on typical photometric behaviour of this search-less system. There is also some probability that AG Dra will return to quiescence stage as we have already detected such behaviour during the weak activity stage 1963–66.
On the other hand, we have some hints that the symbiotic system AG Dra is still active. Even though the photometric behaviour of AG Dra indicates the typical quiescence low-amplitude variability, some spectroscopic characteristics clearly demonstrate that the system is awakened state. Indeed, the equivalent widths of strong emission lines are almost stable in this period. In contrast, their profiles are typical for the active stages of AG Dra, when the blue-wing absorption component observed only during the quiescence stages is almost completely smoothed away.
So, what can we expect from AG Dra? We will see in next days. In the case of this interesting object everything is possible and as I know this object (already some 20 years) it will be certainly the less expected possibility
Once again thank you very much for your effort and we are look forward to new exciting spectra of AG Dra!
On behalf of the scientific team,
Rudolf Gális
So, just go on, with the same cadency and quality.
François
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Re: Call for monitoring of AG Dra by R. Galis & al.
Here are two Spectra of AG Dra taken with the JTW L-200 spectroscope using an 1800 l/mm grating thought a CDK17 (43cm) reflector operating at F/6.8 with an Atik 460ex CCD
Ha Shot on 02May17:
[NOTE: The spectrum was shifted using Isis to correct for Ha radial displacement...will post the uncorrected spectrum latter]
Hb Shot on 01May17:
The Hb is much more noisy than the Ha, even though the exposures are similar (90 minutes).
James
Ha Shot on 02May17:
[NOTE: The spectrum was shifted using Isis to correct for Ha radial displacement...will post the uncorrected spectrum latter]
Hb Shot on 01May17:
The Hb is much more noisy than the Ha, even though the exposures are similar (90 minutes).
James
James Foster
eShel2-Zwo ASI6200MM Pro
Lhires III (2400/1800/600 ln/mm Grat) Spectroscope
LISA IR/Visual Spectroscope (IR Configured)
Alpy 200/600 with Guide/Calibration modules and Photometric slit
Star Analyzer 200
eShel2-Zwo ASI6200MM Pro
Lhires III (2400/1800/600 ln/mm Grat) Spectroscope
LISA IR/Visual Spectroscope (IR Configured)
Alpy 200/600 with Guide/Calibration modules and Photometric slit
Star Analyzer 200
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Bonjour à tous, voici mon observation du jour 05/05/2017.
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Re: Call for monitoring of AG Dra by R. Galis & al.
Hi all, a new NIR observation for May 5. The spectrum seems stable. It is difficult to say exactly but the neutral oxygen line at 8446 A looks a little strengthened:
The heliocentric spectrum is corrected for the radial velocity (Rv is -147 Km/s from Simbad), then I attempt a lines identification (with Paschen series and ionized calcium):
Oxygen and calcium lines show roughly the same radial velocity (about -150 Km/s)
Paolo
PS: what a great tool the Tim PlotSpectra!
The heliocentric spectrum is corrected for the radial velocity (Rv is -147 Km/s from Simbad), then I attempt a lines identification (with Paschen series and ionized calcium):
Oxygen and calcium lines show roughly the same radial velocity (about -150 Km/s)
Paolo
PS: what a great tool the Tim PlotSpectra!
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Hi Paolo,
Great spectra !!!
Actually, I have a very bad weather, but I hope to take some more spectra as soon as possible...
Great spectra !!!
Actually, I have a very bad weather, but I hope to take some more spectra as soon as possible...
LHIRES III #5, LISA, e-Shel, C14, RC400 Astrosib, AP1600
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Re: Call for monitoring of AG Dra by R. Galis & al.
Nice efforts in the IR, Paolo!
I had almost started observation too, but weather was too risky here.
Also planning IR investment (in an easy switchable way).
I had almost started observation too, but weather was too risky here.
Also planning IR investment (in an easy switchable way).
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Interesting, Paolo!
A good baselien reference. To be compare with the spectrum during the next outburst.
Heres's a commented spectrum,
And a comparison with a K1III star (HD 11387)
HD 113847 has been shifted by +19.81 km/s (rv = -19.91 km/s - Simbad)
and AG Dra by 149.6 km/s (from a measure of the rv of the yellow giant of AG Dra for this date)
(Spectrum obtained on April, 26th
H alpha range
H alpha line
One can see the large extension of the line, over 1000 km/s
He I 5016 range The faint lines appears clearly:He I 5048 and perhaps Fe II 5018
Raman OVI (6830)
The limits of the line are easily seen
François
A good baselien reference. To be compare with the spectrum during the next outburst.
Heres's a commented spectrum,
And a comparison with a K1III star (HD 11387)
HD 113847 has been shifted by +19.81 km/s (rv = -19.91 km/s - Simbad)
and AG Dra by 149.6 km/s (from a measure of the rv of the yellow giant of AG Dra for this date)
(Spectrum obtained on April, 26th
H alpha range
H alpha line
One can see the large extension of the line, over 1000 km/s
He I 5016 range The faint lines appears clearly:He I 5048 and perhaps Fe II 5018
Raman OVI (6830)
The limits of the line are easily seen
François
François Teyssier
http://www.astronomie-amateur.fr
http://www.astronomie-amateur.fr