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SN 2019np potentially bright SN in NGC3254

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:35 pm
by Robin Leadbeater
A supernova has been reported in NGC3254
https://wis-tns.weizmann.ac.il/object/2019np
It is currently faint at mag 18 (right at my limit) but according to the published spectrum it is a type Ia, possibly caught a remarkable 2 weeks before maximum so based on the distance to NGC3254 and that from the spectrum there does not seem to be much redenning, it could reach ~mag 13.

One to watch!

Robin

Re: potentially bright SN in NGC3254

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:58 pm
by Rainer Ehlert
Hi Robin,

Interesting, Well situated for me right now at a good time of the night too. Midnight :-)

Rainer

Re: potentially bright SN in NGC3254

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 5:58 pm
by Peter Somogyi
Hello,

Last night's result (300/1200 Newton, Alpy 600, 18 micron slit, ATIK 414 EXm, 8 x 1800 sec, 2019.01.18,917, R~670), using Gelato's comparison graph (gelato.tng.iac.es):
gelato_asdb_sn2019np_20190118_917.png
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The moon was high and had to subtract lots of background (30 min exposures at -20C), but the features matching very well.
There is only some shift in the H-alpha absorption .
This SN is reported now at 13.7 mag (http://www.rochesterastronomy.org/snimages/), but since no obvious emission, had to produce good SNR at continuum level.
The weather was good, but I was rather unsure when the clouds will come. Nevertheless, taken ref.stars 3 times (HD89744) as IR and response, so the response calibration quality should be good.
Gelato says 100% SN Ia match, and enlists outstanding confidence with SN2003du (phase: -9.9d).
I believe that my extra UV end here is real (except the last 1-2 pixels cutoff).

Happy hunting!
Peter

PS: attaching the zip
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Re: potentially bright SN in NGC3254

PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:12 pm
by Robin Leadbeater
Now at mag 13. An ALPY 600 spectrum from last night and match to a Ia at maximum from GELATO

sn2019np_20190127_gelatoplot_2.png
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Robin

Re: potentially bright SN in NGC3254

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:10 pm
by Peter Somogyi
Last night's result, 13.7 mag, 3 x 1800 sec:
gelatoplot_2005cf.png
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The are many match possibilities (seems the SN IA is more common), but the phase=14.9d is realistic.
The object was low a bit, with some fog present.
Peter
asdb_sn2019np_20190208_816.zip
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Re: potentially bright SN in NGC3254

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:55 pm
by Paolo Berardi
Hi all, the first spectrum of the year. I know... it's terrible! :oops:

Same night Peter!

SN 2019np started to decline but it's still relatively bright.

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Fluxed with simultaneous photometry (Baader V filter, SHV-H9 CCD and AAVSO sequence) -> V mag = 13.82.

The line identification is based on the paper here.

SNID (Blondin and Tonry 2007, Ap.J. 666, 1024) returns the best match with Ia SN 1998bu at 11.4 days.

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Fraction of template by SN type (as a function of quality parameter rlap):

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The first template group found by SNID:

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Gelato (Harutyunyan et al. 2008, A&A 488, 383) found the same reference (SN 1998bu) but at 13.5 days.

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Just to experiment with, this is a single 960s spectrum with the SN in the large slit part (300 micron), the upper profile (offset) is filtered (converting resolution into SNR).

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Paolo

Re: potentially bright SN in NGC3254

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:23 pm
by etienne bertrand
Bravo pour vos spectres !

Re: SN 2019np potentially bright SN in NGC3254

PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:50 am
by Christian Buil
A spectrum taken the 12.9/02/2019 (UVEX + color CMOS ASI294MC + RC10) :

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Christian

Re: SN 2019np potentially bright SN in NGC3254

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2019 3:16 pm
by Christian Buil
Spectrum taken the 16.02/02/2019 (the magnitude is uncertain) - bad weather conditions :

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Christian B

Re: SN 2019np potentially bright SN in NGC3254

PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2019 10:42 pm
by etienne bertrand
Ma contribution sur cette belle supernova :
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Photo souvenir :
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La galaxie hôte NGC3254 (jour nuageux..)
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NGC3254 :
NaI = 5922A ; repos = 5893A ; z = 0.004921
MgI = 5190A ; repos = 5174A ; z = 0.0031
Z moyen = 0.0040105

Vr = (z x c) - V hel - V gal
Vr = (0.0040105 x 299792.458) + 17.5
Vr = 1220 kkm/s
V gal = 1180 km/s

D = 17.43 Mpc soit 57 millions d'années-lumière.

Sur le spectre de la supernova le 3/02/19 la raie SiII arrive à 6147.5A ; repose 6355A ; delta = -207.5A
décalage = -0.0326514

d'ou une vitesse de l'éjecta le 3/02/19 :
V ejc = (décalage x c) - Vr NGC3254
V ejc = (-0.0326514 x 299792.458) - 1180
V ejc = -10 969 km/s

La distance donnée par la spectroscopie est de 17.43 Mpc.
Sur la photo NGC3254 fait ~4.815' ce qui donne 0.08025° et donc 0.0014 radian
La taille de NGC3254 fait donc 0.0014 x 17.43 = 0.0024402 Mpc, soit 80 000 AL.