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Re: CH Cygni
Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 8:03 pm
by Joan Guarro Flo
Hi,
Is the CH Cyg on the last njght.
Cheers, Joan.
Re: CH Cygni
Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 4:15 pm
by Francisco Campos
Excel.lent, Joan, as always...
Here is a comparison of two low resolution spectra of CH Cyg. The first one, taken in July 2016; and the last one, only two nights ago. The difference is amazing...

Both spectra taken with the DADOS (R=800) and the newton 8".
Also, I upload the photometric curve taken from the AAVSO database. I expected that CH Cyg would be brighter, but not. The only important difference I see is that the star seems brighter in the Johnson-B band, but in Johnson-V band the star has weakened. Maybe the red component has faded and, on the other hand, the hot component and the surrounding nebula are more excited?
Greetings
Fran
CH Cygni Commented Spectrum
Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:47 am
by Francois Teyssier
A full (almost!) commented spectrum of CH Cygni, with more than 100 identified lines (from various published values)
with PlotSpectra (Tim Lester)
Examples: Range 4800-5000 and 6000-7200
Note [SII] doublet
Other Ranges:
http://www.astronomie-amateur.fr/feuill ... html#Lines
François
Re: CH Cygni
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:30 am
by James Foster
Here is a belated CH Cyg spectrum I took with my LISA spectroscope with the CDK17 F/6.8 reflector working at F/6.8 on 29Apr17:

Very strong H-Alpha emission is seen (almost 8x the intensity of the continuum from 3800-7400A) and at least two He lines showing at 5875.6 and 6678.2 angstroms respectively.
James
Re: CH Cygni
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 3:47 pm
by Francois Teyssier
That's good, James!
You can look at [O III] and [O I]
François
Re: CH Cygni
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 4:54 pm
by James Foster
To: François,
RE:"You can look at [O III] and [O I]"
I re-plotted the 29Apr17 spectrum for CH Cyg using Tim Lester's PlotSpectra 1.4.1.0:
Its hard to find the OIII and OI line IDs in Bass 1.96, so I use Plotspectra for these.
Are the SII(4068.6A), FeII(5317A), FeII(4416A), HeI(4921.93), HeI(5875.65A), and HeI(6678.15A) lines also good?
I wonder if that "absorption" feature around 4222.65A is real?
James
Re: CH Cygni
Posted: Tue May 09, 2017 11:46 pm
by Ken Harrison
James,
The latest V1.9.7 release of BASS Project has enhanced labelling and extended element listing.....
A significant absorption at 4226.73A is shown in Walker's atlas as a Ca I feature.......
Re: CH Cygni
Posted: Wed May 10, 2017 8:17 am
by Francois Teyssier
Hello James,
Ca II 3969 should be replaced by H epsilon 3970
If you have Balmer lines in emission, *all* the lines must appear
[S II] is a possible identification
You can check with Joan's spectra.
If it is [S II], this is a doublet and at higher resolution, the two lines (4068 and 4076)must appear
Ca I 4226 can be strong enough in a ~ K4III constinuum to appear at that resolution
He I lines are correct
About Fe lines, it is difficult at that resolution to be sure. Some features of the TiO band can mimic a line.
I suggest you get a M5III Spectrum and then compare CH Cyg and the reference M5III pseudo-continuum. The *real* emission will clearly appear (or not).
All the best,
François
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Re: CH Cygni
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:20 am
by Francois Teyssier
From observations in August, both at low (Woody Sims and James Foster) and high resolution (Joan Guarro, Tim Lester, François Teyssier), strong absorptions in H beta and lower Balmer lines appear clearly with max velocities from -2000 to -3000 km/s (and perhaps more)
H beta profile from echelle spectra

- CHCyg_Hbeta.PNG (64.72 KiB) Viewed 9485 times
François
Re: CH Cygni
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:20 pm
by Christian Buil
Spectrum of CH Cygni taken the 12.8/09/2017 at R = 49 000 (VHIRES-MO spectrograph):
Christian