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Re: Suspected/Misclassified Symbiotics: spectra required
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 8:25 am
by Francois Teyssier
Bonjour Hubert,
francoismathieu.teyssier at gmail.com
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Re: Suspected/Misclassified Symbiotics: spectra required
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:53 am
by Hubert Boussier
Hello 2SPOT,
You are right 2SPOT, it is what I do usually, but as I explained before, that night I had planned a comet session, C/2019L3 and C/2021A1.
I did TYC 1731-69-1 spectra meanwhile waiting for C/2021A1 rising, to not spend my time.
With comets bright enough to be observed there is no risk to mistake them with a star, so I did not programed to save a guider image.
By the way, how is the weather on the other side of the word?
Hubert
Re: Suspected/Misclassified Symbiotics: spectra required
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 5:00 pm
by Christian Buil
Jaroslav, here the spectrum of TYC 1371-60-1, from your your target list.
The spectrum is taken by using a Newton 250 mm f/4 telescope and un Star'Ex spectrograph (3D printing setup) at the low resolution version (R=750) :
(no apparent Halpha emission at this resolution)
Christian Buil
Re: Suspected/Misclassified Symbiotics: spectra required
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 9:30 am
by Hubert Boussier
Bonjour Christian,
Le profil que tu affiches indique qu'il s'agit de TYC 1371-60-1, j'en étais resté à la liste postée par Jaroslav le 27/11, je ne trouve pas cette étoile, soit il y a eu une nouvelle liste de postée depuis soit il y a un problème de frappe ou autre, car dans la liste du 27/11 la seule étoile TYC est TYC 1371-69-1.
J'ai fait, (enfin je pense avoir fait) TYC 1371-69-1 récemment, il me semble que nos deux profils sont sensiblement différents, du coup j'ai des doutes soit sur le pointage de l'étoile soit sur le traitement du spectre que j'ai fait. Pour bien comparer les choses, il faudrait avoir les deux .fit des profils. Je n'ai pas le fichier de ton profil , mais toi tu peux charger le mien, j'ai mis un lien dans mon post du 3/12. Pourrais-tu essayer de tirer cela au clair ?
Hubert
la liste du 27/11
Here I repeat the list of targets from my previous post, which needs observations (of course, when they will be observable, just not to lose them in the thread):
V618 Sgr (V ~ 10) - see above.
ASAS J174600-2321.3 (Sgr, V ~ 13)
TYC 1371-69-1 (Gem, V ~ 10)
V917 Sco (V ~ 15; very crowded region) - after solving the possible confusion in the position given in the current databases.
AS 280 (Sgr, V ~ 13) - see above.
V850 Aql (Mira variable with V ~ 14 - 16; period of 390 d; now relatively faint, next maximum in April 2022)
V1290 Aql (Mira variable with V ~ 14 - 16; period of 280d; now faint, next maximum in March 2022, then second half of December 2022)
Gaia19dpl (Cen, G ~ 12.1; RA 13:12:12.26, DEC -48:58:38.71)
Gaia20fut (Vel, G ~ 13.1; RA 08:51:30.36, DEC -44:40:09.91)
Gaia18ctm (Mus, G ~ 13.6; RA 13:47:13.51, DEC -70:10:12.76)
Gaia18cwv (Sco, G ~ 13.7; RA 17:52:47.77, DEC -34:31:21.83)
Gaia18bec (Scu, G ~ 14.0; RA 18:33:42.40, DEC -14:13:52.03)
Gaia18cfh (Sgr, G ~ 14.1; RA 17:44:15.19, DEC -25:15:40.64)
Gaia21axn (Sgr, G ~ 14.9; RA 18:05:44.31, DEC -24:33:32.44)
Jaroslav
Re: Suspected/Misclassified Symbiotics: spectra required
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2021 10:37 pm
by Hubert Boussier
Hello,
Ten days ago, I did a spectra of a suspected symbiotics star named TYC 1371-69-1.
As there was a doubt on the real identity of the star I caught; I had remove this uncertainty. So I did a meticulous inquiry which is now completed.
Now I can say that I don't know which star it was, but I can affirm that It was not TYC 1371-69-1.
So I have to apologize having suspected an innocent star, unknown, but an innocent one.
Now the spectra of the real suspect: TYC 1371-69-1 :
And the place where he stays:
You can see that this spectra looks a little like the one obtained by Christian
The profile of the spectra:
http://www.astrosurf.com/astrild/Autres ... 31_HBO.fit
Clear sky
Suspected/Misclassified Symbiotics: update
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 2:34 pm
by Francois Teyssier
An update on the program proposed by Jaroslav:

- SySt_candidates.PNG (46.34 KiB) Viewed 17861 times
Column 8: number of spectra in the database.
Orange: discripencies in the spectra. New observations needed. Please also send an autoguider image if possible.
Yellow: observable targets for the next weeks/months.
TYC 1371-69-1, Gaia 19dpl, Gaia 20fut: spectra shown on the forum , but not sent to the database (sauf erreur de ma part).
V5590 Sgr: clearly symbiotic with strong [Fe VII] as shown by Peter. A spectrum showing He II 4686 should be welcome.
AS 280 identification. @ Peter: if you have [OIII] 4959, you *
must* have [OIII] 5007 about x3 more intense. Thus [OIII] 4959 should be removed.
Good hunt!
François Teyssier
Re: Suspected/Misclassified Symbiotics: spectra required
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:46 am
by 2SPOT
Re: Suspected/Misclassified Symbiotics: spectra required
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:47 am
by Christophe Boussin
Hello all,
Here is my new contribution to the suspected/misclassified symbiotic stars.
I obtained the following spectrum of TYC 1371-69-1 with a spectral range from 3700 to 7565 A the 12th of February at 20 h 52 TU with my Alpy 600 (resolution of 521, JJ = 2459623.3697) and an acquisition time of 130 min (13 x 600 s) :

- TYC 1371-69-1 on February 12th, 2022 (3700-7565 A)
- _tyc1371-69-1_20220212_870_Christophe Boussin_3700_7565.png (105.2 KiB) Viewed 17635 times
Identification of Balmer lines from PlotSpectra :

- TYC 1371-69-1 on February 12th, 2022 (identification of Balmer lines from PlotSpectra)
No balmer lines are visible in emission.

- Guiding camera field
- CHAMP_TYC 1371-69-1_legende.jpg (80.74 KiB) Viewed 17635 times
Clear skies,
Christophe BOUSSIN
Re: Suspected/Misclassified Symbiotics: spectra required
Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:54 am
by 2SPOT
Here's a spectrum taken this morning from our setup in Chile of Gaia 18ecm (mag. V=13,6)

Re: Suspected/Misclassified Symbiotics: spectra required
Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 11:22 am
by 2SPOT