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Comet ISON (C/2012 - S1)

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:48 pm
by Christian Buil
A first spectrum of comet ISON. The object is faint for the moment.
The spectral signature is dominated by dust (only very faint gaz emission) :

Image

Alpy 600 on Celestron 11 + f/6.7 focal reducer

Christian B

Re: Comet ISON (C/2012 - S1)

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:29 pm
by Paolo Berardi
Great observation Christian! I did not think it was already observable with spectrograph. As usual you've pushed forward the limit!

I see several photos of the comet showing a conspicuous green coma (see spaceweather.com), so I expected more visible Swan band on the spectrum. Could be due to not high spectrum SNR or the color of images are a little "pumped"?

Thanks for sharing!

Ciao
Paolo

Re: Comet ISON (C/2012 - S1)

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:29 pm
by Christian Buil
I have not a definitive response.
My spectrum rather shows the central region, probably richer in dust. The gazeous coma is very faint and difficult to see because
the SNR is not very high (the object is still quite faint!). I can detect fluorescence in the spectrum, so it is there. However,
the dust part now clearly dominate in the nucleus region, photos also shows this. Aind I suspect a (artificial) boost of green component
in some photography...

Christian

Re: Comet ISON (C/2012 - S1)

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:50 pm
by Paolo Berardi
Thank you Christian, we'll see spectrum evolution when the comet will be brighter.

Ciao
Paolo

Re: Comet ISON (C/2012 - S1)

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 2:10 pm
by Christian Buil
For comparison a spectrum, of Encke comet taken with the
same setup.

No apparent nucleus and a large fluorescent coma:

Image

(not easy to detect in imagerie mode from my suburban observatory,
more simple with a spectrograph).

Christian

Re: Comet ISON (C/2012 - S1)

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:02 pm
by Paolo Berardi
Excellent spectrum! I think this match very well with an RGB image like this:

http://www.astrostudio.at/3_Faint%20Com ... _02_10.jpg

Paolo

Re: Comet ISON (C/2012 - S1)

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:49 pm
by Christian Buil
La brillance de ISON monte lentement (pas très pressée la bestiole ;-)). Une observation
du spectre cette nuit (24.16 octobre) avec un Alpy 600 et un C11 - pose de 1 heure.
On commence à voir quelques détails dans le spectre, le CN est bien évident à présent)


A spectrum of ISON taken the Oct. 24.162 with Alpy 600 and Celestron 11 (6 x 600 s exposure)

Image

See also the page:

http://www.astrosurf.com/buil/comet/ison/obs.htm

Same night a short exposure spectrum of C/2013 X1 (LINEAR) presently in outburst:

Image

See: http://www.astrosurf.com/buil/comet/C2012_X1/obs.htm

Christian B

Re: Comet ISON (C/2012 - S1)

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:59 am
by Paolo Berardi
NASA CIOC explains why comet ISON look green on the basis of Christian spectrum:

http://www.isoncampaign.org/why-does-ison-look-green

Great job!

Paolo

Re: Comet ISON (C/2012 - S1)

Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:41 am
by Christian Buil
C/ISON spectrum show now more and more details (NH2 lines, ...).
A spectrum taken the October 31.146 UT with Alpy 600 spectrograph:

http://www.astrosurf.com/buil/comet/iso ... 131031.png

Image

See also: http://www.astrosurf.com/buil/comet/ison/obs.htm

My observatory is suburban, not ideal... Many observers are more well
placed and use more largest telescope. I am the only observer
of this major object?????

LISA, Alpy, ... spectrograph class are ideal here, but now you
you can also try with Lhires 600, 1200, .... I encourage observations
(actual weather condition in France are dramatics, but other in the world!?)

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[Français]
Un nouveau spectre de ISON le 31.146 octobre. Il commence
à montrer pas mal de détails. La météo est tout à fait catastrophique en
France actuellement, mais si vous avez la moindre occasion, ne pas hésiter
de faire cet objet majeur, il devient facile. LISA, Alpy, ... voire des
spectrographes plus résolvants sont possibles.


Christian

Re: Comet ISON (C/2012 - S1)

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:45 pm
by Hubert Boussier
"I am the only observer of this major object????? "

Non Christian t’es pas tout seul :)

François Kugel a posté ce spectre de Joan Guarro sur le forum yahoo des observateurs de comètes.
Ici : http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/les_co ... ssage/5855
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