Possibile nova in Aries mag 11
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Possibile nova in Aries mag 11
PNV J03093063+2638031
AR: 03 09 30.63
DEC: +26 38 03.1
http://www.cbat.eps.harvard.edu/unconf/ ... 38031.html
Nicely placed in the sky!
Paolo
AR: 03 09 30.63
DEC: +26 38 03.1
http://www.cbat.eps.harvard.edu/unconf/ ... 38031.html
Nicely placed in the sky!
Paolo
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Re: Possibile nova in Aries mag 11
Thanks for the Alert, Paolo,
According to Patrick Schmeer (snet-alert mailing-list) the object is
"probably a CV with large outburst amplitude (blue 18-19 magnitude star at
quiescence)".
http://www.cbat.eps.harvard.edu/unconf/ ... 38031.html
Spectra are welcome for identification.
According to Patrick Schmeer (snet-alert mailing-list) the object is
"probably a CV with large outburst amplitude (blue 18-19 magnitude star at
quiescence)".
http://www.cbat.eps.harvard.edu/unconf/ ... 38031.html
Spectra are welcome for identification.
François Teyssier
http://www.astronomie-amateur.fr
http://www.astronomie-amateur.fr
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Re: Possibile nova in Aries mag 11
Hi François, yes, that is another dwarf nova!

Blu continuum, faint and narrow H-alpha emission, absorption of H-beta and H-gamma (at this resolution I don't see the possibile central emission peak), HeII 4686 just over the noise.
Progenitor should be visible in this animation I made with an old POSS2/UKSTU Red and an unfiltered image (21:58 TU 30 Oct) taken some minutes ago by Massimo Caimmi (thank you Massimo!). His astrometry: AR 03 09 29.77 DEC +26 38 04.6

Lhires III slit view:

I send you FITS profile.
Ciao,
Paolo
PS: I miss a classical nova...

Blu continuum, faint and narrow H-alpha emission, absorption of H-beta and H-gamma (at this resolution I don't see the possibile central emission peak), HeII 4686 just over the noise.
Progenitor should be visible in this animation I made with an old POSS2/UKSTU Red and an unfiltered image (21:58 TU 30 Oct) taken some minutes ago by Massimo Caimmi (thank you Massimo!). His astrometry: AR 03 09 29.77 DEC +26 38 04.6

Lhires III slit view:

I send you FITS profile.
Ciao,
Paolo
PS: I miss a classical nova...

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Re: Possibile nova in Aries mag 11
Fog allowed me this yesterday evening (+1 mag to stars...), red part is just noise and that's why Ha is not visible (have not cut at 6000A only for continuum). Anyway it's very blue.
Wanted to shoot more, but clouds dived in unexpectedly. Slit view is distorted toward edges due to f/4 (fov can be roughly 20").
Wanted to shoot more, but clouds dived in unexpectedly. Slit view is distorted toward edges due to f/4 (fov can be roughly 20").
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Re: Possibile nova in Aries mag 11
That's excellent Paolo and Peter,
A page in the next newsletter.
François
A page in the next newsletter.
François
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Re: Possibile nova in Aries mag 11
Hello all,
Here is my contribution on PNV J03093063+2638031
Regards,
Here is my contribution on PNV J03093063+2638031
Regards,
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Jacques Montier
Societe d'Astronomie de Rennes
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Jacques Montier
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Re: Possibile nova in Aries mag 11
Hi all, I heard about the need to use higher resolution in case of weak (and narrow) spectral lines. So, I wanted to try a medium-high resolving power setup with h-alpha line of this subject. I don't know exactly what has changed in two days but yes, the emission line is much more detectable using 1200 l/mm grating (R~6000) instead of 150 l/mm one. Total exposure here is greater but I observe the same thing combining just some frames. I also understood that the emission line is very narrow, that is it does not show appreciable velocity broadening being its width close to my instrumental FWHM. This is very different from a classical nova!

Updated AAVSO light curve:

Paolo

Updated AAVSO light curve:

Paolo
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Re: Possibile nova in Aries mag 11
A similar experience for h-beta line. A noisy spectrum but the very narrow emission component is clear in the middle of the broadened absorption line:

(cropped, entire spectrum includes 4580-5050 A interval)
Paolo

(cropped, entire spectrum includes 4580-5050 A interval)
Paolo
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Re: Possibile nova in Aries mag 11
Hi all, I resume this old topic because it's just been published in the Astronomy and Astrophysics journal an interesting article by U. Munari et al. concerning the discovery of a photo-ionized spatially resolved nebula around the star:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1506.08526
It is interesting that the nebula seems appreciable also in the mid-res 2d spectrum I taken on 1.797 november 2014:

I saw the extensions beyond continuum during the reduction process but I thought it was an effect due to a small vertical shift of the spectrum and the bright h-alpha "spot" (oscillations of target along slit axis).
Jacques, Peter, any evidence of the nebula in your spectra?
The article reports that a nebula around a WZ Sge star is probably a unique feature. There is a clear physical association to the dwarf nova because it expanded over time and it turned invisible when the superoutburst has ended (recombination completed). No evidence of the nebula in the historic red POSS plated.
Perhaps it could represent a possible interesting field of research also for amateurs.
Paolo
http://arxiv.org/abs/1506.08526
It is interesting that the nebula seems appreciable also in the mid-res 2d spectrum I taken on 1.797 november 2014:

I saw the extensions beyond continuum during the reduction process but I thought it was an effect due to a small vertical shift of the spectrum and the bright h-alpha "spot" (oscillations of target along slit axis).
Jacques, Peter, any evidence of the nebula in your spectra?
The article reports that a nebula around a WZ Sge star is probably a unique feature. There is a clear physical association to the dwarf nova because it expanded over time and it turned invisible when the superoutburst has ended (recombination completed). No evidence of the nebula in the historic red POSS plated.
Perhaps it could represent a possible interesting field of research also for amateurs.
Paolo
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Re: Possibile nova in Aries mag 11
Hi all,
Paolo, unfortunately, i don't see any evidence of nebula on my spectrum
Halpha is rather weak and does not clearly appear on the spectrum.
Peter ?
Regards,
Paolo, unfortunately, i don't see any evidence of nebula on my spectrum

Halpha is rather weak and does not clearly appear on the spectrum.
Peter ?
Regards,
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Jacques Montier
Societe d'Astronomie de Rennes
IAU code J23
Jacques Montier
Societe d'Astronomie de Rennes
IAU code J23